DUST Search - What's with the cloaks on scouts?

Vect-r wrote:

Tek Hound wrote:

Vect-r wrote:

I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing).

Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment.

Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far..

For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players?

Thank you and I hope I did not offend.

Vect-r

I stopped at cod and over the top equipment.There is nothing in dust that is even over the top compared to cod.As for new players this is not cod /you cant compare twitch shooter blitz mess to dust.This is one of the reason new players have a hard time.Moving form an arcade game to a tactical shooter mmo is a big jump.Cod is designed to give everyone an A game by nullification of player skills so everyone is equal.Dust is not just a shooter its an mmo where player time is just as important as good reflexes(not much with AA).

How skillful would you feel if you got a handicap against a vet?Why would you want to play a game you can't advance in?There's only minor balance issue but there is no over the top gear.welcome to dust514 skill is involved with gameplay.

To counter your argument, this would mean that most veteran players (who you say to have high-level equipment from investing large amounts of time) would be dominant against newer, under-equipped soldiers. Paying to gain a "tactical" advantage to having the most OP load out; is this the environment in DUST that you want?

Furthermore, do you really want to spend another 60+ hours and get the skill points required to kill that Protosuit player who harasses you as you've just started DUST? Maybe I didn't emphasize this, but I don't like Call of Duty: there are aspects that I do not like, such as you said "the twitch shooter blitz" repetitiveness. But at least Call of Duty gives newer players a fighting chance at toppling the vet players.

I hope I have made my point crystal clear.


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Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 267	Posted - 2014.05.01 20:12:00 - [1] - Quote Vect-r wrote: I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing). Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment. Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far.. For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players? Thank you and I hope I did not offend. Vect-r I stopped at cod and over the top equipment.There is nothing in dust that is even over the top compared to cod.As for new players this is not cod /you cant compare twitch shooter blitz mess to dust.This is one of the reason new players have a hard time.Moving form an arcade game to a tactical shooter mmo is a big jump.Cod is designed to give everyone an A game by nullification of player skills so everyone is equal.Dust is not just a shooter its an mmo where player time is just as important as good reflexes(not much with AA). How skillful would you feel if you got a handicap against a vet?Why would you want to play a game you can't advance in?There's only minor balance issue but there is no over the top gear.welcome to dust514 skill is involved with gameplay. Skill > majority of dust community
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 267	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:19:00 - [2] - Quote Vect-r wrote: Tek Hound wrote: Vect-r wrote: I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing). Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment. Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far.. For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players? Thank you and I hope I did not offend. Vect-r I stopped at cod and over the top equipment.There is nothing in dust that is even over the top compared to cod.As for new players this is not cod /you cant compare twitch shooter blitz mess to dust.This is one of the reason new players have a hard time.Moving form an arcade game to a tactical shooter mmo is a big jump.Cod is designed to give everyone an A game by nullification of player skills so everyone is equal.Dust is not just a shooter its an mmo where player time is just as important as good reflexes(not much with AA). How skillful would you feel if you got a handicap against a vet?Why would you want to play a game you can't advance in?There's only minor balance issue but there is no over the top gear.welcome to dust514 skill is involved with gameplay. To counter your argument, this would mean that most veteran players (who you say to have high-level equipment from investing large amounts of time) would be dominant against newer, under-equipped soldiers. Paying to gain a "tactical" advantage to having the most OP load out; is this the environment in DUST that you want? Furthermore, do you really want to spend another 60+ hours and get the skill points required to kill that Protosuit player who harasses you as you've just started DUST? Maybe I didn't emphasize this, but I don't like Call of Duty: there are aspects that I do not like, such as you said "the twitch shooter blitz" repetitiveness. But at least Call of Duty gives newer players a fighting chance at toppling the vet players. I hope I have made my point crystal clear. Yes this is dust514 a tactical shooter mmo you put time in you are rewarded.Your a mec you buy the best gear to get the job done.Its an mmo you invest time to advance.You cant expect to start tomorrow and be competitive with vets who put time into the game.Like everyone else you start at the bottom and work your way up no free rides.Your not doing pc out of the box.There are no op builds in dust but you haven't played invested time to even know.I killed protos with starter fits(skill), having the best gear dosen't mean you can use it. You sts no life players but not everyone life is base off yours . Everyone has there own hobby but you shouldn't get a handout because you feel you have a life.If that's the case why are you even playing games?Vets make the game and invest in keeping it up and should be rewarded(why invest time in a game with no reward for it).what it really sounds like is a lot of new players want to be lvl30 without working up from lvl. Cod is a game based off of luck no skill involved. The only reason you have a chance against vets in cod because everyone is keep at lvl1 and no one can advance.This us dust you advance with time and match.You should not be on the same lvl on day one as someone who was playing for a year. I started since beta and missed a few builds were my sp was reset.I was a noob again and worked my way up.. why cant you do it?You have corporation/make friends, dust even gives you sp when your not playing. There is no other excuse but I dont want to invest. Skill > majority of dust community